NrEgNoRyAtNoRaA

my new blog.

2009-05-18T22:41:00.000-07:00

My new blog.i won't be using this one anymore
click here>>>http://tayern.blogspot.com/

at least something after a long time.

2009-04-06T11:39:00.000-07:00

I know You love me. I know You died for me cause I know You care. I know You live again. Your life for all my sin. Now I stand here in in Your grace again. And when Ilook into the skys above wonder how my life have change. Wonder how your love it came to me. As I look to the stars above, all my fears are so far away and all i hear is heaven calling me. So Ilook to you. No one else will do.

Do you not know? Have you not heard? It's been told form the beginning, The Lord your God is on your side. O my soul don't be afraid. Hope in the Lord, By His righteousness and power he will strengthen and he will guide. And I will soar on wings like eagles. Held by the hand of God. I will run and not grow tired, When on His name I call. For the Lord is never weary and His ways are beyond my thoughts. So I will trust in Him with all my heart.

This is my prayer in the desert when all that's within me feels dry. This is my prayer in the hunger in me and My God is a God who provides. And this is my prayer in the fire. In weakness or trial or pain. But there is a faith proved of more worth than gold so refine me Lord through the flames. And I will bring praise. I will rejoice and I will declare that God is my victory and He is here. This is my prayer in the battle and triumph is still on it's way. I am a conqueror and co-heir with Christ. So firm on His promis I'll stand. And all of my life, in every season you are still God. I have a reason to sing and worship. This is my prayer in the harvest, when favour and providence flow. I know I'm filled to be empited again. This seed I've recieved I will sow.

I LOVE YOU SO, AND I GIVE UP MY HEART TO SAY. I NEED YOU SO! CAUSE YOU'RE MY EVERYTHING!

Tag by jemmie!

2009-01-28T07:43:00.000-08:00

Directions: Once you’ve been tagged, you have to write a blog or a note on Facebook with sixteen random things, facts, habits or goals about you. At the end choose ten people to be tagged, listing their names and why you chose them. Don’t forget to leave them a comment (”you’re it”) and to read your blog. You can’t tag the person who tagged you. Since you can’t tag me, let me know when you’ve posted your blog/note, so I can see your weirdness.

1. I wish i could sing like Brooke Fraser.hahaha
2. I love all my friends.
3. I've been digging my nose this few days.
4. I wish i could speak a weird language that none of my friends understand.hahaha i just want to talk to my self.LOL!!!
5. I wish i could play all the music instrument in the world!
6. I can be very protactive.
7. I need to start talking without thinking.Thinking makes me introvert.
8. Nepolion dynamite rocks! he's inspirational!
9. I actually hardly do m divotions. Probably once a year! Forgive me.
10. I think my live is boring cause i donno wat to write. Thank God for giving me everything!=D
11. I'm so annoying.
12. Wat to say ah...?!?! "You dance so good you make me in a mood!" by Hanry Chow.
13. I want to study!
14. I will walk by faith even when i can not see. Because this broken road prepares your will for me!
15. I'm scared of the future.
16. I'm turning my eyes upon Jesus and let the things of the world go strangely dim.

Sorry yeah!i got no online friends to tag hahahahaha

Like Eagles

2009-01-13T03:54:00.000-08:00

Oh! my soul, do you not know? Have you not heard?

Its been told from the beginning the Lord your God its on your side.

Oh! my soul, Don't be afraid. Have hope in the Lord.

And by his righteousness and power he will strengthen and he will guide.

And i will soar on wings like eagles and held in the hand of God.

I will run and not grow tired, when on his name i call.

For the Lord is never weary. His ways are beyond my thoughts.

And i will trust in him with all my heart.

So i will rest upon his promise and patiently i'll wait.

High Flight

2009-01-06T09:25:00.000-08:00

High Flight

Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of earthAnd danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirthOf sun-split clouds - and done a hundred thingsYou have not dreamed of - wheeled and soared and swungHigh in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring thereI've chased the shouting wind along, and flungMy eager craft through footless halls of air.Up, up the long delirious, burning blue,I've topped the windswept heights with easy graceWhere never lark, or even eagle flew -And, while with silent lifting mind I've trodThe high untresspassed sanctity of space,Put out my hand and touched the face of God

Pilot Officer Gillespie MageeNo 412 squadron, RCAFKilled 11 December 1941

Me got tag...=(..

2008-11-20T10:09:00.000-08:00

I has been tag bye kimbali koh.
CAN NOT!!!why?why la?Kenapa?

1. Do you think you're hot?

i sumtime can come high one.So me sumtime hot lor...
aiyo...i oni hot hot wen sun cum out.nite time wher got hot.

2. Upload a favourite picture of yourself

I like a lot of pictures.And this is one of it.i like it because i took it my self.hmm...i set the timer of course.It was taken in Madrid,Spain.It was freazing cool!haha...and i took off my sweater.stupid me but it was fun.The building at the back is call Real Palace.Its really be beautifull!

4. When was the last time you ate pizza?

I don't know .can't remember.

5. The last song you listened to?

The time has come by united live band.Album United We Stand.
Today!today!i'll live for one thing!To give you praise in everything i do!=)

6. What are you doing right now besides this?

Singing!=D...

7. What name would you prefer besides yours?

I don't know why.But i like the name Chelsea!=D..i'm not a Chelsea fan ok!!

People to tag:
1.Jesus Christ
2.Evanna Lynch
3.Marcus Chew
4.DD
5.Mun Seng

8. Who is number one?

My friend,my brother,my father,my King,my Lord,my God.
He is the Savior King!He is Mighty to Save!!!

9. Number 3 is having a relationship with?

With Jesus Christ.

10. Say something about number 5

His awesome!His one of my best friend.He sometimes over rated la...hehehe

11. How about number 4?

DD is my dog.Dumb Dog!

12. Who is number 2?

My wife.LOL!!!hahaha..=p

Full Matel Jacket

2008-10-31T05:42:00.000-07:00

WARNING! Kids under 18 must not read this.It containts strong languages.So you can just skip this post.
This is a scene from Full Matel Jacket which i find it super funnie.

Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: I'm Gunnery Sergeant Hartman, your senior drill instructor, from now on you will speak only when spoken to, and the first and the last word out of your filthy sewers will be "Sir". Do you maggots understand that?
[recruits answers: Sir. Yes Sir!]
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Bullshit I can't hear you. Sound off like you got a pair!
[recruits repeats with a louder tone]
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman:If you ladies leave my island, if you survive recruit training, you will be a weapon. You will be a minister of death praying for war. But until that day you are pukes. You are the lowest form of life on Earth. You are not even human, fucking beings. You are nothing but unorganized grabastic pieces of amphibian shit. Because I am hard you will not like me. But the more you hate me the more you will learn. I am hard but I am fair. There is no racial bigotry here. I do not look down on niggers, kikes, wops or greasers. Here you are all equally worthless. And my orders are to weed out all non-hackers who do not pack the gear to serve in my beloved Corps. Do you maggots understand that?

(walks to a private)

Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: What's your name, scumbag?
Private Snowball: Sir, Private Brown, sir!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Bullshit! From now on you're Private Snowball. Do you like that name?
Private Snowball: Sir, yes, sir!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Well there's one thing that you won't like, Private Snowball they don't serve fried chicken and watermelon on a daily basis in my mess hall.
Private Snowball: Sir, yes, sir!

Private Joker:(whispered) Is that you John Wayne? Is this me?
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Who said that? Who the fuck said that? Who's the slimy little communist shit, twinkle-toed cocksucker down here who just signed his own death warrant? Nobody, huh? The fairy fucking godmother said it! Out-fucking-standing! I will PT you all until you fucking die! I'll PT you until your assholes are sucking buttermilk!

[Gunnery Sgt. Hartman grabs Pvt. Cowboy by the shirt]

Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Was it you, you scroungy little fuck, huh?!
Private Cowboy: Sir, no Sir!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: You little piece of shit! You look like a fucking worm! I bet it was you!
Private Cowboy: Sir, no Sir!
Private Joker: Sir, I said it, Sir!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Well, no shit. What have we got here, a fucking comedian? Private Joker. I admire your honesty. Hell, I like you, you can come over to my house and fuck my sister!

[Gunnery Sgt. Hartman punches Pvt. Joker in the stomach]

Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: You little scumbag! I got your name! I got your ass! You will not laugh! You will not cry! You will learn by the numbers. I will teach you! Now get up! Get on your feet! You had best unfuck yourself or I will unscrew your head and shit down your neck!
Private Joker: Sir, Yes sir!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Private Joker, why did you join my beloved Corps?
Private Joker: Sir, to kill, sir!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: So you're a killer?
Private Joker: Sir, yes sir!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Then let me see your war face!
Private Joker: [nervously] Sir?
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: You got a war face! AAAAAAAAHH! That's a war face, let me see your war face!
Private Joker: Ahhhh!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Bullshit. You didn't convince me. let me see your REAL war face! Private Joker: [Screaming] AHHHHHHHHHHH!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: You don't scare me! Work on it!
Private Joker: Sir, yes sir!

(walks to Private Cowboy)

Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: What's your excuse?
Private Cowboy: Sir,what excuse,sir?
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: I'm asking the fucking questions here private. Do you understand? Private Cowboy: Sir, yes, sir!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Well thank you very much, can I be in charge for a while?
Private Cowboy: Sir, yes, sir!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Are you shook up? Are you nervous?
Private Cowboy: Sir, I am, sir.
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Do I make you nervous?
Private Cowboy: Sir?
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: "Sir" what? Were you about to call me an asshole?
Private Cowboy: Sir,no,sir!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: How tall are you, private?
Private Cowboy: Sir, five-foot-nine, sir.
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Five-foot-nine, I didn't know they stacked shit that high.Trying to squeeze an inch in on me,huh?
Private Cowboy:Sir,no,sir.
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Bullshit. It looks to me like the best part of you ran down the crack of your mama's ass and ended up as a brown stain on the mattress.
Where in the hell are you from anyway?
Private Cowboy:Sir,Texas,sir.
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Holy dog shit. Texas? Only steers and queers come from Texas, Private Cowboy. And you don't look much like a steer to me so that kinda narrows it down. Do you suck dicks?
Private Cowboy: Sir,no,sir.
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: I'll bet you're the kind of guy that would fuck a person in the ass and not even have the goddam common courtesy to give him a reach-around. I'll be watching you.

(Walks to Private Gomer Pyle)

Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Does your parents have any children that lived?
Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, Yes, sir.
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Well how about they regret that? You are so ugly you can be a modern art master piece! What's your name fat-body?
Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, Leonard Lawrence, sir.
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Lawrence? Lawrence what of Arabia?
Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, No, sir.
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: That name sounds like royalty are you royalty?
Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, No, sir.
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Do you suck dicks?
Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, No, sir.
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Bullshit. I bet you could suck a golfball through a garden hose. Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, No, sir.
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: I don't like the name Lawrence, only faggots and sailors are called Lawrence. From now on you're Gomer Pyle.
Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, Yes, sir.
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Do you think I'm cute, Private Pyle? Do you think I'm funny? Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, no, sir!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Then wipe that disgusting grin off your face.
Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, yes, sir. [tries to stop smiling]
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Well, any fucking time, sweetheart!
Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, I'm trying, sir.
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Private Pyle I'm gonna give you three seconds; exactly three-fucking-seconds to wipe that stupid looking grin off your face or I will gouge out your eyeballs and skull-fuck you! ONE! TWO! THREE!
Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, I can't help it, sir.
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Bullshit! Get on your knees scumbag!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: [Pyle drops down to his knees]
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Now choke yourself.
Private Gomer Pyle: [Pyle wraps his own hands around his throat]
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Goddamn it, with MY hand, numb-nuts!

[Pyle reaches for Hartman's hand]

Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Don't pull my fucking hand over there! I said choke yourself; now lean forward and choke yourself!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: [choking Pyle] Are you through grinning?
Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, yes, sir.
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Bullshit, I can't hear you!
Private Gomer Pyle: [louder] Sir, yes, sir.
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Bullshit, I STILL can't hear you! Sound off like you've got a pair! Private Gomer Pyle: SIR, YES, SIR!
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: That's enough; get on your feet. Private Pyle you had best square your ass away and start shitting me Tiffany cufflinks or I will definitely fuck you up!
Private Gomer Pyle: Sir, yes, sir.

I have a reason to WORSHIP!

2008-10-01T11:10:00.000-07:00

This is my prayer in the desert,when that's all within me feel dry.
This is my prayer in my hungry and need.And my God is the God who provides.
And this my prayer in the fire in weakness or trial or pain.There is a faith proved of more words than gold.So refine me Lord through the flame.
I will bring praise,i will bring praise.No weapon form against me shall remains.
I will rejoice.I will declare.God is my victory and He is here.
And this is my prayer in the battle.And triumph is still on it's way.
I am a conqueror and co-heir with Christ.So firm on His promise I'll stand.
All of my life,In every season.You are still God!
I have a reason to sing.I have a reason to worship!
This is my prayer in the harvest.When favor and providence flow.
I know I'm filled to be empited again.
The seed I've recieved I will sow!

Desert Song by Hillsong

Instructions for caring baby

2008-09-25T12:03:00.000-07:00

A message by George Carlin

2008-08-05T23:25:00.000-07:00

GEORGE CARLIN (His wife recently died...)

Isn't it amazing that George Carlin - comedian of the 70's and 80's - could write something so very eloquent...and so very appropriate.

A Message by George Carlin:
The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings but shorter tempers, wider Freeways , but narrower viewpoints. We spend more, but have less, we buy more, but enjoy less. We have bigger houses and smaller families, more conveniences, but less time. We have more degrees but less sense, more knowledge, but less judgment, more experts, yet more problems, more medicine, but less wellness.

We drink too much, smoke too much, spend too recklessly, laugh too little, drive too fast, get too angry, stay up too late, get up too tired, read too little, watch TV too much, and pray too seldom.

We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values. We talk too much, love too seldom, and hate too often.

We've learned how to make a living, but not a life. We've added years to life not life to years. We've been all the way to the moon and back, but have trouble crossing the street to meet a new neighbor. We conquered outer space but not inner space. We've done larger things, but not better things.

We've cleaned up the air, but polluted the soul. We've conquered the atom, but not our prejudice. We write more, but learn less. We plan more, but accomplish less. We've learned to rush, but not to wait. We build more computers to hold more information, to produce more copies
than ever, but we communicate less and less.

These are the times of fast foods and slow digestion, big men and small character, steep profits and shallow relationships. These are the days of two incomes but more divorce, fancier houses, but broken homes. These are days of quick trips, disposable diapers, throwaway morality, one night stands, overweight bodies, and pills that do everything from cheer, to quiet, to kill. It is a time when there is much in the showroom window and nothing in the stockroom. A time when technology can bring this letter to you, and a time when you can choose either to share this insight, or to just hit delete...

AND ALWAYS REMEMBER:
Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away.

George Carlin

hey mate!

2008-07-31T00:56:00.001-07:00

2008-07-29T07:10:00.001-07:00

who am i makes a difference?

2008-07-26T03:37:00.000-07:00

random laughters.

2008-07-19T09:49:00.000-07:00

ALO!!!!!

WOW!!!

LOL!!!

I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!

The Missing Day!

2008-07-13T07:21:00.000-07:00

For all the scientists out there, and for all the students who have a hard time convincing these people regarding the truth of the Bible,here's something that shows God's awesome creation, and that He is still in control. Did you know that the space program is busy proving that what has been called 'myth' in the Bible is true?

Mr. Harold Hill, President of the Curtis Engine Company in Baltimore,Maryland, and a consultant in the space program, relates the following development. 'I think one of the most amazing things that God has done for us today happened recently to our astronauts and space scientists at Green Belt, Maryland . They were checking out where the positions of the sun, moon, and planets would be 100 years and 1,000 years from now. We have to know this so we won't send up a satellite and have it bump into something later on in its orbits. We have to lay out the orbits in terms of the life of the satellite and where the planets will be so the whole thing will not bog down.

'They ran the computer measurement back and forth over the centuries,and it came to a halt. The computer stopped and put up a red signal,which meant that there was something wrong with either the information fed into it or with the results as compared to the standards. They called in the service department to check it out, and they said, 'What's wrong?' Well, they found there is a day missing in space in elapsed time. They scratched their heads and tore their hair. There was no answer.

'Finally a Christian man on the team said, 'You know, one time I was in Sunday School, and they talked about the sun standing still.' While they didn't believe him, they didn't have an answer either, so they said, 'Show us.' 'He got a Bible and went to the book of Joshua where they found a pretty ridiculous statement for any one with 'common sense.' There they found the Lord saying to Joshua, 'Fear them not, I have delivered them into thy hand; there shall not a man of them stand before thee.' 'Joshua was concerned because he was surrounded by the enemy, and if darkness fell, they would overpower them. So Joshua asked the Lord to make the sun stand still! That's right...'The sun stood still and the moon stayed and lasted not to go down about a whole day!'(Joshua 10:12-13).

'The astronauts and scientists said, 'There is the missing day!

'They checked the computers going back into the time it was written and found it was close but not close enough. The elapsed time that was missing back in Joshua's day was 23 hours and 20 minutes... not a whole day.

They read the Bible, and there it was 'about (approximately) a day.

'These little words in the Bible are important, but they! were still in trouble because if you cannot account for 40 minutes, you'll still be in trouble 1,000 years from now. Forty minutes had to be found because it can be multiplied many times over in orbits. As the Christian employee thought about it, he remembered somewhere in the Bible where it said the sun went BACKWARDS. The scientists told him he was out of his mind, but they got out the Book and read these words in 2 Kings that told of the following story:
Hezekiah, on his death bed, was visited by the prophet Isaiah who told him that he was not going to die. Hezekiah asked for a sign as proof. Isaiah said 'Do you want the sun to go ahead 10 degrees? 'Hezekiah said, 'It is nothing for the sun to go ahead 10 degrees, but let the shadow return backward 10 degrees.'Isaiah spoke to the Lord, and the Lord brought the shadow ten degrees BACKWARD! 'Ten degrees is exactly 40 minutes!Twenty-three hours and 20 minutes in Joshua, plus 40 minutes in Second Kings make the missing day in the universe!' Isn't it amazing?

The last Letter.

2008-06-12T09:40:00.000-07:00

Dear.......................,

I don't have much time.I don't mean literally,i mean,you are out buying ice cream and you'll be home soon but i have a feeling this is the last letter.Because there's only one thing i left to tell you.It isn't to go down memory lane,you can take care of yourself without any help from me.Its to tell you how much you move me.How you changed me.You made me a man by loving me and for that i am eternally grateful.If you can promise me anything,promise me that whenever you're sad or unsure or you lose complete faith that you'll try too see yourself through my eyes.You've made my life but i'm just one chapter of yours.There'll be more,i promise.So here it comes,the big one.Don't be affraid to fall in love again.Watch out for that signal when life as you know it ends.
P.S I will always love you.

Abortion!

2008-06-10T20:00:00.000-07:00

aborted at 7 weeks

aborted at 8 weeks

aborted at 9 weeks

aborted at 10 weeks

aborted at 11 weeks

aborted at 22 weeks

aborted at 24 weeks

IS GOD GETTING OLD?

2008-04-28T09:29:00.000-07:00

Is God getting old?
Author: Dr. Kent Hovind

This is an interesting question that reflects a common human tendency. People often try to put our human limitations on God. The God of the Bible does not have our limitations. It is difficult to comprehend God as not being affected by time, space or matter like we are. There is a story that may help explain how God is beyond understanding.

Suppose there were two flat people represented by two rectangular pieces of paper. These flat people lived on a tabletop. We will call them Mr. Flat and Mrs. Flat and the place they live in and understand is called Flatland. They are two-dimensional beings and live in a two dimensional world. They have no concept of the third dimension. They can see only one dimension (width) but they can perceive two, length and width; just as humans can see two dimensions, length and width and perceive a third, depth. (Hence, the term "depth perception.")
Now suppose that a three-dimensional being (a human) wished to meet and explain himself to Mr. and Mrs. Flat. If that person stuck a finger through the table top called Flatland, Mr. and Mrs. Flat would see only a circle, (the cross section of the finger) with no perception of the rest of the person. Three dimensions are beyond their comprehension in the same way God is beyond our comprehension.

Ephesians 3:18-19 says, "May be able to comprehend with all saints what is breadth, and length, and depth, and height; (four dimensions) And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fullness of God."
God may exist in more dimensions than we can fully comprehend now. When we ask a question like "is God getting old," we assume that God exists in time like we do. He does not. He exists beyond time, space, and matter; humans are the ones stuck in time. So God does not grow old. Time, space and matter do not apply to Him or affect Him in any way. He created them all in Genesis 1:1.

The difference between science and god.

2008-04-18T10:42:00.000-07:00

Science and God

'Let me explain the problem science has with Jesus Christ.' The atheist
professor of philosophy pauses before his class and then asks one of his
new students to stand.

'You're a Christian, aren't you, son?'

'Yes sir,' the student says.

'So you believe in God?'

'Absolutely.'

'Is God good?'

'Sure! God's good.'

'Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?'

'Yes.'

'Are you good or evil?'

'The Bible says I'm evil.'

The professor grins knowingly. 'Aha! The Bible!' He considers for a
moment.

'Here's one for you. Let's say there's a sick person over here and you
can cure him. You can do it. Would you help him? Would you try?'

'Yes sir, I would.'

'So you're good...!'

'I wouldn't say that.'

'But why not say that? You'd help a sick and maimed person if
you could. Most of us would if we could. But God doesn't.'

The student does not answer, so the professor continues. 'He
doesn't, does he? My brother was a Christian who died of cancer, even
though he prayed to Jesus to heal him How is this Jesus good? Hmmm? Can
you answer that one?'

The student remains silent.

'No, you can't, can you?' the professor says. He takes a sip of
water from a glass on his desk to give the student time to relax.

'Let's start again, young fella Is God good?'

'Er...yes,' the student says.

'Is Satan good?'

The student doesn't hesitate on this one. 'No.'

'Then where does Satan come from?'

The student : 'From...God...'

'That's right. God made Satan, didn't he? Tell me, son. Is there
evil in this world?'

'Yes, sir.'

'Evil's everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything,
correct?'

'Yes.'

'So who created evil?' The professor continued, 'If God created
everything, then God created evil, since evil exists, and according to
the principle that our works define who we are, then God is evil.'

Without allowing the student to answer, the professor continues:
'Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible
things, do they exist in this world?'

The student: 'Yes.'

'So who created them?'

The student does not answer again, so the professor repeats his
question. 'Who created them? There is still no answer. Suddenly the
lecturer breaks away to pace in front of the classroom. The class is
mesmerized.

'Tell me,' he continues onto another student. 'Do you believe in
Jesus Christ, son?'

The student's voice is confident: 'Yes, professor, I do.'

The old man stops pacing. 'Science says you have five senses you
use to identify and observe the world around you. Have you ever seen
Jesus?'

'No sir. I've never seen Him'

'Then tell us if you've ever heard your Jesus?'

'No, sir, I have not.'

'Have you ever actually felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or
smelt your Jesus? Have you ever had any sensory perception of Jesus
Christ, or God for that matter?'

'No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't.'

'Yet you still believe in him?'

'Yes.'

'According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable
protocol, science says your God doesn't exist. What do you say to that,
son?'

'Nothing,' the student replies. 'I only have my faith.'

'Yes, faith,' the professor repeats. 'And that is the problem
science has with God. There is no evidence, only faith.'

The student stands quietly for a moment, before asking a
question of his own. 'Professor, is there such thing as heat?'

'Yes,' the professor replies. 'There's heat.'

'And is there such a thing as cold?'

'Yes, son, there's cold too.'

'No sir, there isn't.'

The professor turns to face the student, obviously interested.
The room suddenly becomes very quiet. The student begins to explain.

'You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat,
mega-heat, unlimited heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we
don't have anything called 'cold'. We can hit up to 458 degrees below
zero, which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is
no such thing as cold; otherwise we would be able to go colder than the
lowest -458 degrees. Every body or object is susceptible to study when
it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have
or transmit energy. Absolute zero (-458 F) is the total absence of heat.
You see, sir, cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of
heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat we can measure in thermal units
because heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the
absence of it.'

Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the classroom,
sounding like a hammer.

'What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing as
darkness?'

'Yes,' the professor replies without hesitation. 'What is night
if it isn't darkness?'

'You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something; it is the
absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright
light, flashing light, but if you have no light constantly you have
Nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use to
define the word. In reality, darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able
to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?'

The professor begins to smile at the student in front of him.
This will be a good semester. 'So what point are you making, young man?'

'Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is
flawed to start with, and so your conclusion must also be flawed.'

The professor's face cannot hide his surprise this time.
'Flawed? Can you explain how?'

'You are working on the premise of duality,' the student
explains. 'You argue that there is life and then there's death; a good
God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something
finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a
thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much
less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life
is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive
thing. Death is not the opposite of life, just the absence of it.'

'Now tell me, professor. Do you teach your students that they
evolved from a monkey?'

'If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young
man, yes, of course I do'

'Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?'

The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling, as he
realizes where the argument is going. A very good semester, indeed.

'Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work
and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you
not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a
preacher?'

The class is in uproar. The student remains silent until the
Commotion has subsided.

'To continue the point you were making earlier to the other
student, let me give you an example of what I mean.'

The student looks around the room. 'Is there anyone in the class
who has ever seen the professor's brain?' The class breaks out into
laughter.

'Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's brain,
felt the professor's brain, touched or smelled the professor's brain? No
one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of
empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no
brain, with all due respect, sir. So if science says you have no brain,
how can we trust your lectures, sir?'

Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at the
student, his face unreadable.

Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old man answers. 'I
guess you'll have to take them on faith.'

'Now, you accept that there is faith, and, in fact, faith exists
with life,' the student continues. 'Now, sir, is there such a thing as
evil?'

Now uncertain, the professor responds, 'Of course, there is. We
see it everyday. It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man.
It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world.
These manifestations are nothing else but evil.'

To this the student replied, 'Evil does not exist sir, or at
least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God.
It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe
the absence of God.

God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what happens when
man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold
that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there
is no light.'

The professor sat down.

The best answer!

2008-04-09T11:00:00.000-07:00

I've been asking everyone that comes online if they know anyone who is a pilot.
And most probably they would say no.To my suprise Sammy said only you!
Gosh that touch me heart!That is the sweetest thing someone ever said to me.
She maybe wondering why.Only If you know how much being a pilot meant to me.

I don't know!

2008-04-03T09:18:00.000-07:00

I just don't know wat to write!
Tell me wat to write please.....

P.S i will never write anything if my father reads my blog!hahahaha

Bonjour no!

2008-03-27T04:53:00.000-07:00

What day is it? And in what month?This clock never seemed so alive.I can't keep up and I can't back down.I've been losing so much time.
Yeah!I am working.Finally working!haha Standing for hours is killing my legs.
Staffs there are very friendly and they are very gay.I'll take pictures of the place if i can.=D...

Kim Tag me! =S.....

2008-02-21T21:58:00.000-08:00

001. Real name:Tay Rong Ern
002. Nickname: Aaron
003. Married: Not yet
005. Male or female: male
007. Highschool: its over!
008. College: not yet
010. Short or long hair: not long not short...growing longer
015: Are you a health freak: Not really!
016. Height: who cares
017. Do you have a crush on someone: I don't rightly know
018. Do you like yourself: yeah!
019. Piercings: none
021. Righty or lefty: Righty

FIRSTS*
022. First surgery: none
023. First piercing(s): none
024. First best friend : Lit Yew.
025. First award: who cares
026. First sport you joined: don't remember
027. First pet: rats!pigs!...........human?
028. First vacation: =S...can't remember
029. First concert: planet shakers
030. First crush: i donno can't remember

CURRENTLY*
049. Eating: nothing
050. Drinking: Nothing
052. I'm about to: find something to eat!

YOUR FUTURE*
058. Want kids: lots!
059. Want to get married: yeah!
060. Careers in mind: Commercial Pilot!

WHICH ONE IS BETTER*
068. Lips or eyes: I like both i guess.
069. Hugs or kisses: Both
070. Shorter or taller: i don't care
072. Romantic or spontaneous: spontaneous romanticlly
074. Sensitive or loud: None!
075. Trouble maker or hesitant: =S

HAVE YOU EVER*
078. Kissed a stranger: Nope
079. Drank bubbles: In a fizzy drink YES
080. Lost glasses/contacts: Nope
081. Ran away from home: Nope
082. Liked someone younger: Yeah. heh
083. Liked someone older: Yeah
084. Broken someone's heart: Maybe...
085. Been arrested: No
087: Cried when someone died: Of course
088. Liked a friend: Ummm, yes

DO YOU BELIEVE IN*
089. Yourself: yeah
090. Miracles: Yes
092. Heaven: OF COURSE
093. Santa Claus: haha. No
096. Angels: Yeah

ANSWER TRUTHFULLY*
097. Is there one person you want to be with right now: Yes!
099. Do you believe in God: YES!
100. Tag 5 people: none...too lazy

Education in UK ?

2008-02-05T08:28:00.000-08:00

Ding ge ding ding.Check your self before you wreck your self.Its the new year thats wat the chinese people believes.So me is back from the UK.=(...ain't that sad.For the 2 months i was in Europe.And now in Asia celebrating CNY.How cool...maybe.
So i stayed in Birmingham and i saw a lot of chinese students from all over the country.Everybody wants to study in the UK,isn't it?And why is that?Lets see...

But those of you who study geografi knows that the UK is over hundreds miles from here.The capital is?Anyone...yeah!its Manchester!hahaha
I'm writting this cause me want to speak to the brightest people of our genaration and wat makes the universites in england so spacial.The thing is there is so many great people being educated there.

So hear me now,you guys are going to be the most cleverest students in England.Some of you is going to be brialiant accauntant,you know 1,2,3,4....=S,i could go on,easy!Others of you will be briliant at the English language and mamories the entire alphabet from A to X.And even will be able to spell words like Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious...incredible!

I as well also clever!Me was so brainy that me finish me education six years before any of you at the age of 17.Even the teachers admited that there is nothing else for them to teach me.(i wish that happen to me LOL)

Students has come here from every conner of the earth,from the rain forest of Sabah to the deserts of Alaska.Some of you may not even seen a Black man before.There is all types of people there and is fantastic to see that UK is finally letting so many women.A lot of you is probably faminism or as we call in England lesbians.I agree with you too that relationship should be brought into this 20th century.You women out there shouldn't have to do the cooking and the cleaning when you come home from work.You should do when you leave in the morning,isn't it?Also you women should only do haft the house work,its only fair that your mom do the another haft.And more importantly that is wicked in UK that young women and man get to learn so many amazing subjects.Some of you would be studying medicine.With that knowladge come a lot of responsibility.Remember Doctors are well powerfull people.You can give life,you can kill disease and you can ask a women ( /\ ) without getting a slap!

And those of you studying history,you probably learn enogh about the prime ministers,like who was Tony Blair and wat did Dr.Mahatir gave Malaysia apart from the Twin Tower.Some of you are going to be the best legal student.You would know even without have to think about it how to get someone out of the charge.Lets talk about the finance and all the knowladge that is going to drop on you.It cost at least 1000pounds per month.And most of you would have got that cash from your parents.All you fathers out there,you have made some choices.With that money you could have bought a top 5 star panhouse.But insteated you choose to invest in your kids future....IS YOU MANTEL!!If you got other kids,you won't make the same mistake,isn't it?It like HELLO darling my son got a Cambridge degree...WAT?WHO CARES!!! OR HELLO Darling want to check out the DVD player at the back!OOoooh....O.O So students give it up for your parents!RESPACT THEM!!!

Lets talk about your future,a lot of you are probably worried about employment.Unfortunatly,most of you will end up getting jobs.Especially when you get the burden of a degree!You guys will be the athelic and the captains of tomorrow industries.Those of you reading my blog now would probably be the next Bill Gates,Donal Thurmp and even Ronal Mcdonal.If you can't be Ronal him self,most of you would be his team leader.BTW a word of advice,if you get to do business with Mr.Mcdonal,don't mention the size of his feet.He is well sensetive about it.Me sister actually meet him on her birthday and she said even though he may seem like always smilling but there is a sadness in his eyes,cause of the damn feet!

All the money in the world,science still can't do nothing.You students are going to be powerfull people who can chance the future and you need to cause the world in the moment is totally F*** UP!Anyhow you has got to think of the problem of the world cause you got to sort them out,isn't it?Look at the enviroment,in a hundred years time there won't be no more rain forest and the ice cap would have melted.Look at the state of family today,girls are having sexs at young age and more and more people are having affares.But we shouldn't just focus on the good things.

Believing in something is easy but doing something about it is hard!Action speaks louder than birds!You people is the future,you has the charge to change the world to actually improve the lifes of people.I'll rap this up now,i too have great ideas like the great Civil rights leader,Martin Luther King.I Have a Dream of a little black girl and a little white girl playing with each other,so lets make this happen.I look out and see so many thausands of people with different hopes.But its most important that never to forget where you come from bacause Black,White,Brown or Pakistani.We all come from the same place.....(the punani)....
So listen up to wat has been said!and most importantly KEEP IT REAL!

P.S i love you

2008-01-08T18:09:00.000-08:00

Recently i've been watching movies.Oh yeah looks like i've watch all the shows thats on the cinema.haha...Well,the movie that is going to value your money is P.S i love you.Two tubs up and two toes up!

Others are err....=.=".Alvin and the chipmunks is alright.hehe There are cute!And guess wat,i caught a video of a squareal on my camera!hahaha it was so close to me.lol It was the fattest one i've seen.Looks delicious too hehehe.

I am legand was disapointing.The ending was stupid.Wasn't a happy ending though he found the cure for the virus.But a friend told me there was hidden story in the movie.It was like Jesus Christ died to set us free.

The another disapointing movie is The Golden Compase.It was the same as The Narnia,nothing great just the scenery is awesome.haha

I've watch other stupid movies and i would be stupid enough to write any comment about it.So i won't write any more.=)

P.S i love you guys!

Boxing day!

2007-12-27T04:53:00.000-08:00

went to Daren's place for dinner...hehe ate a lot!He have a nice wife,house and dog!
Drunk dog!haha...had Port and some Spanish wine!The port was lovely!wish could take that home with me!hehe...3 poeple face got red!wasn't me yeah...the desert was awesome!haha sadly i donno wat i've eaten hahahaha...later we played Taboo argh!the girls won.Shame on the guys...haha pity Karen.Everyone was talking about Malaysia.lol...

Leicester!

2007-12-27T03:28:00.000-08:00

Many things happen lately but i'm lazy to write it down.My bad haha...and i forget to bring my book to write as a dairy.So yeah...i'll try to take as many picture as posible!=)...hopefully the camera works again.hehe
Well i went to Leicester with Aunty Lynette so here are the pictures enjoy!
In the cold forgy morning!hehe...

Look alike..=)

2007-12-14T03:38:00.001-08:00

Well its been a week now i've been here...hehe its getting colder everyday.May be snowing by next week hehe...can't wait.lol...So nothing great has really hapen so far except that i found the look alike Evanna lynch.Hahaha really excited and happy!lol...Jon and I went to pizza hut at Merry Hill and i was looking around to find is there anyone that look like her.So tatata...there she is!argh!!!so pretty...gosh i like her hair.And one thing i realize about her is that she is very hard working.Wow...i want that to be my wife hahaha...well,don't want to talk so much about her lol...Anyways we will go back to pizza hut again hehe.
So here are the picture that have taken so far...
watever...Jon and i still got about 7 more tubs of that to eat haha
Me waiting for the bus.Its cold out there hehe...
err..we lost our why to Ikea haha

another tub of ice cream hehe as you can see i'm very tired after a long day..hehe
lol our dinner..yummy

thats in the church

Merry Christmas Birmingham!!!
german hotdog!!!yummy...

Birmingham!

2007-12-07T12:06:00.000-08:00

Alo to all bloke and wench who took time in reading my blog.thanks you so much!=)...Well mary christmas to all!Be in good cheer!haha...Am glad to have this opportunity to come to Birmingham.Thanks to Aunty Lynette,her husband(i forgot his name and also Jon for inviting me here.=)...haha oh well,its very cold here!my lips are so dry that they got swolen and red.lol...wishing to see snow also hehe.So lets start from the beggining.Sorry for there are not many pictures taken.My camera is a bit retarded.Haiz...But not to worry!many days more to come.hehe..so this is just about an hour before my departure.

lol...my sisters looks happy that i wil be gone!haha...Oh well..the best part of the whole jurney is that there was a chapecon with me lol..i felt so VIP.haha..i did not have to line up at all..haha we just walk into the plane.i mean WAT was that?!?!that is so unfair to others?haha...So 7 hours was on the plane watching movies.Crazy there was so many movies that i didn't know what to watch.lol...that wasn't so bad.The worst case is that there was a couple sitting next to me and i was sitting beside the window.So just imagine for that 7 hours i only get to the toilet for one time haiz...i was like!AGHR!!!get me out from here.I was holding my pee for so long!and seriouly cant't take it anymore.Sigh...felt to good when touch down on Dubai Airport.hehehe...
So heres a snap of Dubai...sorry man!i know its blur probaly i was too excited to peeeeee...hehehe
OH gosh!my mouth was wide open when i got into the airport.It was super huge!lol...it looks like a shopping mall.KLIA is nothing compare to that man.lol...sorry i did not take a picture of the airport but i will when i get back.hehe...Later,lets fly to Birmingham Airport!haiz...kinda lazy to type.So it took me only about 15minutes to get through everything.From the plane to the immigration and to the lauggage.Hahaha...thank the lord i did not have any trobble with the immigration.That guy ask stupid question i must say!haha...how are you?i'm 17.How are you?oh sorry,i'm OK!haha...so why did you come here for?i come in peace!Wat is my dad working?non of your business!your mom?Shut up and just let me go through or i kill you!haha...
lol...Aunty Lynette was very kind to wait for me in the airport.
Later we have to walk to the bus stop to take a bus to get to JOn's place.lol...
lalala...my big teeth!hehe...Jon's room was really in a messy!
cut it short!really lazy to type =S...i'll write tomorrow again.

Take it all...

2007-12-02T10:46:00.000-08:00

If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face.I will hear from heaven.Forgive their sin and heal their land....
2Chron 7:14.
Let us sing to our god.Come before his presence with thanksgiving.For the lord is the great god.In his hands are the deep places of the earth.The heights of the hills are his also.The sea is his for he made it and his hands formed the dry land...
Psalm 95:1-5
HOLY HOLY HOLY is the lord of host.The whole earth is full of his glory.
Isaiah 6:1
HIS POWER!HIS MAJESTY!HIS LIFE!HIS LOVE!HIS PASSION!God is spirit and those who worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth...

When i found the one i love.i held him and would not let him go...
Song of Solomon 3:4
One thing i have desired of the lord that i seek.That i may dwell in the house of the lord all the days of my life.To behold the beauty of the lord and to inquire in this temple.I WILL SING YEAH!i will sing praises to the lord.Your face lord i will seek.
Psalm 27:4-8

Stupid Paper for Malaysians (SPM) is finally!!!So now is holiday =)

2007-12-02T09:21:00.000-08:00

Can't imagine its finally over!high school is over hahahaha okok so now i'll just wait for UK.=)...i'll take pictures and post it.=) yeah so cool!haha

Point Of Differents

2007-11-20T21:05:00.000-08:00

another song to sing along! =)

The tide is turning
This is redemption's hour
In the midst of the world lost for love
You are all we have now

The lost returning
Salvation is all around
In the midst of the world broken down
You are all we have now
For You are God and this hope is ours

So Father open the skies
Flood the Earth with your light
This is love, to break a world indifferent

Our hearts are burning
The fire that won't burn out
In the midst of a world that's grown cold
You are all we have now

The earth resounding
The anthem of your renown
As we lift up our eyes
And look to your glory
Call us out let the world see
You are God and this hope is ours
So call us out, let the world see
You are God as we sing

Open the skies
Flood the Earth with your light
This is love to break a world indifferent
As we lift up our eyes
Fill our hearts with your fire
In a world the same we'll be the difference, the difference

So call us out let the world see
You are God and this hope is ours

Our eyes are open
Every chain now broken
In this world we are different
Let your love become us
As we live to make you famous
We're in this world but we are different

So call us out let the world see
You are God one and only
In this world you are all we have now

Breaking free!

2007-11-20T20:39:00.000-08:00

yooo...i miss my blog!in the mids of SPM now...soo noob!!! So i won't write much for now...
SPM make me speachless.............................................................silence! I KILL YOU!haha
Instead i will post some lyrics so you can sing and dance along with me!XD...

Would you believe me, would you listen if I told you that
There is a love that makes a way and never holds you back?
Who would have thought that God would give His one and only Son
Taking a stand up on the cross to show his perfect love?

So won't you break free, won't you break free
Get up and dance in his love
Won't you break free, won't you break free
Get up and dance in His love

His love never ending
There's no escaping the truth
There's no mistaking it's You
God forever we'll
Get up and dance, get up and dance, and praise You
There's no escaping your life
There's no mistaking your love
Across the world we will
Get up and dance, get up and dance and praise You

Now is the time to take His grace and that has come our way
Offer our lives to see the glory of His name

So won't you break free, won't you break free
Get up and dance in his love

His love never ending
There's no escaping the truth
There's no mistaking it's You
God forever we'll
Get up and dance, get up and dance, and praise You
There's no escaping Your life
There's no mistaking Your love
Across the world we will
Get up and dance, get up and dance and praise You

And now for all our days
We are holding on, holding on to
All Your ways
We are holding on, holding on to
All you say and You've done
And we are holding on to Your love
Now we will dance

Won't you break free, Won't you break free
Get up and dance in His love

YEAH!!!praise the lord...

2007-01-14T02:35:00.000-08:00

yeah...guess wat...haha...i get to do my accouts homeworks correctly for the first time alone.haha...thank you god.I pray that this will go on.XD...
thank god i don't have much problem with my add maths and maths too.haha
"GOD HE REIGN"

can't believe it......ITS A SHOCK!!!

2007-01-06T06:43:00.000-08:00

WOW~can't imagine that i am form 5 this year.Its a shock for me...I AM 17 THIS YEAR,well i am still 16!!!but ARGH!!!NO WAY!!!hmm....but what to do la...life's go on...time is so fast.I am having SPM this year!!!Time pass by me so fast and never know that i am getting older every second...and always thought that SPM is still long way more...haha...but now i can laugh and cry at my self la...gosh..saddening la...i must GAMBATE LA.Can not play-play any more...well pray for me la,if you know that i am a very lazy person...hahaha...

happy new year!!!

2007-01-04T21:09:00.000-08:00

happy new year...happy new month...happy new day...but i thank the lord for his mercy are new every morning...without his mercy,grace and love i don't think i can be happy even for a day...just to be by gods sides there is hope in my life,there is no greatter freedom i'll find....this is a nice movie...watch it and be bless...god bless...
We Send You Our Blessings

The Purpose Driven Church

2007-01-03T05:59:00.000-08:00

Michael J. Penfold
It’s a depressing statistic. A majority of Western churches do not see a single addition through conversion in a typical year. So to try and turn things round many are rejecting traditional methods of evangelism and adopting a new ‘church growth’ model. Market research has convinced them that unbelievers stay away from church not because they reject Christ, but because they reject the church’s boring presentation of Christ. There’s no need to change the product – just the packaging – and the crowds will come flocking back.

The new packaging is all about replacement. A ‘stage’ with a moveable Perspex lectern replaces the old wooden pulpit. PowerPoint graphics replace the hymn books. A rock band replaces the organ. A casually dressed and jovial audience replaces the reverent congregation. A charming minister in a t-shirt and jeans replaces the suited ‘preacher’. Fun replaces holiness as the tone of the service. Loud music, side-splitting drama, multimedia presentations and a humorous ‘talk’ replace hymn singing and preaching. But, we’re confidently assured, the message remains the same.

Judging by numbers alone the new model has certainly proved a success. Prominent ‘church growth’ pastors like Robert Schuller (Crystal Cathedral, LA), Rick Warren (Saddleback Church, California), Bill Hybels (Willow Creek Church, Chicago) and Joel Osteen (Lakewood Church, Houston) attract thousands to their churches each Sunday. Though a majority of this ‘growth’ occurs by transfer rather than ‘conversion’, multitudes of other churches have adopted this model and have seen their congregations rocket numerically. Small wonder anyone questioning the movement is told, “Never criticise what God is blessing.”1 Truth never stood a chance against success.

How widespread is this new phenomenon? Consider this fact; over 400,000 pastors from 162 countries have been trained under Rick Warren’s church growth seminar material alone. (Warren calls his philosophy a “stealth movement flying beneath the radar that’s changing literally thousands of churches around the world ”). His book The Purpose Driven Church, which espouses this new philosophy, has sold over 1 million copies in 20 languages and is a standard textbook in hundreds of Bible Colleges. Yet despite the incredible popularity of Rick Warren and others like him, there are numerous problems with the church growth movement, starting with its history.

Problem 1 — The Origin and History of the Movement

The father of the church growth movement was the relatively unknown missionary Donald McGavran, whose writings had a 'dramatic impact' on Rick Warren. The day in 1974 when Warren first read an article on church growth by McGavran was the day he decided to "invest the rest of his life" discovering the principles of 'church growth'. McGavran's best known student and successor at the Fuller School of World Mission in California was C. Peter Wagner, a founding member of the Lausanne Committee on World Evangelization. Wagner, a close friend of the late John Wimber (Vineyard), calls himself an apostle and is one of the world’s leading promoters of charismatic ‘signs and wonders’. From Fuller Seminary the church growth philosophy spread worldwide.

The first pastor to ‘make it big’ using modern church growth techniques was Robert Schuller. “An indisputed fact is that I am the founder, really, of the church-growth movement in this country...I advocated and launched what has become known as the marketing approach in Christianity.”2 How did he do it? “The secret of winning unchurched people into the church is really quite simple. Find out what would impress the nonchurched in your community [then give it to them].”2 Yet Schuller is a false teacher of huge proportions. An unashamed universalist, he rejects Jesus as the only way to heaven. He states that making people aware of their lost and sinful condition is the very worst thing a preacher can do. As for the new birth, to Schuller it simply means changing from a negative to a positive self-image.

Schuller’s landmark 1975 book Your Church Has Real Possibilities impressed Warren and Hybles who both visited Schuller to learn more. Hybels called his first meeting with Schuller a “divine encounter.”3 Kay Warren, Rick’s wife, said that Schuller had a “profound influence” on Rick, who was “captivated by his positive appeal to unbelievers.”4 Warren has since shared the platform at several of Schuller’s leadership conferences and an endorsement by Schuller appears at the beginning of Warren’s book The Purpose Driven Church: “I’m praying that every pastor will read this book...Rick Warren is the one all of us should listen to and learn from.” Today Warren, Hybels and Schuller all operate their churches on the same market-driven principles.

Problem 2 — The Business-Church Marriage

The second major problem with the church growth movement is its love-affair with the business world. Warren, who partners with marketing agencies like CMS in Covina, California, a company that helps giants like Isuzu Motors and Quaker Oats “grow their businesses,”5 follows the advice of secular business guru Peter Drucker, with whom he has engaged in a bi-annual consultation for 20 years. The focus of Drucker’s recent consulting has been to teach churches and charities to behave more like corporations and Warren has adapted many of his ideas.6 For instance, the Drucker Foundation has a ‘Self-Assessment Tool’ for business leaders. Warren has a ‘Health Assessment Tool’ for readers of his Purpose Driven Life. Anyone familiar with the ideas promoted in business books will easily spot their cloned ‘Christian’ versions all through Warren’s writings. Forbes Magazine publisher, Rich Karlgaard said of The Purpose Driven Church, “This is one of the greatest entrepreneurial books I’ve ever read, and if you merely substitute the word ‘business’ for ‘church’, it’s just a terrific guide that can be taken to a secular and business audience.”7 Bob Buford, founder of the Leadership Network in Dallas, Texas, has spent over 20 years integrating Drucker’s business ideas into churches. Another friend of Warren and Hybels, Buford calls himself “the legs for his [Drucker’s] brain.”8

Compare all of this to Paul’s pivotal message to the Ephesian elders in Acts 20. He mentions nothing about marketing, growing or adapting. Instead he warns them to teach the whole counsel of God, to beware of false teachers and to preach the gospel of faith and repentance - which introduces the third major problem in the church growth movement, the corruption of the gospel message.

Problem 3 — The Dumbing Down of the Message

Church growth advocate Lee Strobel recommends reaching ‘un-churched Harry and Mary’ by starting with their ‘felt needs’. (Rather than with righteousness, self-control and judgment to come as Paul did with Felix in Acts 24). Thus “If you discover that unchurched Harry suffers from a sagging self-esteem...you can tell him how your own self-esteem has soared ever since you learned how much you matter to God.”9 Or if he’s a thrill seeker tell him there’s “nothing more exciting, more challenging and more adventure packed than living as a devoted follower of Jesus Christ.”10 In other words, discover what a sinner wants out of life and give it to him ‘in Jesus’. In a chapter in The Purpose Driven Church entitled ‘How Jesus Attracted Crowds’, Rick Warren states: “The most likely place to start is with the person’s felt needs...this was the approach Jesus used...A good salesman knows you always start with the customer’s needs, not the product.”11 In the previous chapter Warren claims, “Whenever Jesus encountered a person he’d begin with their hurts, needs, and interests.”12 Yet simply noting how the Lord dealt with Nicodemus, the rich young ruler, the Syrophenician woman and Levi, to name but a few, shows Warren’s selective exegesis to be very misleading.

Christians have always known that when witnessing to different types of individuals from diverse backgrounds it is useful to understand the presuppositions they bring to the table and adjust one’s approach accordingly. Clearly the Lord dealt with Nicodemus differently than with the woman at the well. Again, Paul addressed the Jews in Acts 13 differently to the Greeks on Mars Hill in Acts 17. So why all the fuss about Warren? Because Warren is not simply recommending that preachers bear their audience’s background in mind; he is advocating a total change in the technique, style and form of historical evangelical preaching, and he’ll even twist scripture to make his point. He favours a rendering of Col 4:5-6 which reads: “Be tactful to those who are not Christians...Talk to them agreeably and with a flavour of wit, and try to fit your answers to the needs of each one.”13 Yet the context of this passage is not about public preaching and the translation Warren favours is not in the least bit accurate to the original Greek text.

While no pastor would ever admit to watering down the gospel message, that is exactly what has resulted from preaching positive needs-orientated sermons that entertain and amuse. For instance, an evaluation of Hybels’ preaching reveals that in a typical month three out of four weekend messages are about God’s love. A mere 7% of messages mention God’s holiness. The truth of God’s wrath against mankind’s sin is virtually never heard.14 What isn’t preached is more revealing than what is.

Concluding their weak gospel presentations, many church growth preachers lead their audience in a model ‘sinner’s prayer’. Warren advises sinners that, “Real life begins by committing yourself completely to Jesus Christ. If you are not sure you have done this, all you need to do is receive and believe...bow your head and quietly whisper the prayer that will change your eternity: ‘Jesus I believe in you and I receive you.’ Go ahead. If you sincerely meant that prayer, congratulations! Welcome to the family of God.”15 No conviction of sin, no repentance, no forsaking of the sinner’s way, no counting the cost – just ‘accept and receive’ and the job’s done. Do these false teachers actually understand the true need of the sinner? Clearly not, for sinful man’s first and greatest need is repentance (not self-esteem as Schuller teaches). Man needs salvation from sin, deliverance from wrath and cleansing from guilt. The ‘consumer’ is actually a rebellious unclean sinner who, far from being ‘always right’, is always wrong. He doesn’t feel his need for the ‘product’ because he is spiritually dead. He only thinks he loves God and wants a relationship with Jesus, but actually he knows nothing about his true sinfulness and God’s righteousness.

The true gospel is not about making people feel better about themselves, but about making people realise they are lost, guilty and perishing. It does not attempt to bring people to Christ to meet their felt needs - rather it proclaims forgiveness and justification to meet their real need if they will repent and trust alone in Christ. A product that exposes sin, condemns pride and strips away self-righteousness can never be ‘marketed’. It is foolishness to the lost (1 Cor 1:18). Yet the new gospel is being presented as an attractive item to the sinner because it liberates his self esteem, fills his emptiness, gives him an exciting life, meets his needs and heals his hurts.

In the false gospel of the church growth movement the sinner is told that Christ died for him because he is so valuable to God. But this is a denial of grace. There is nothing in us to merit God’s love. Again, the idea that the sinner is friendly towards God but just turned off by the church is a denial of human depravity. Man is an enemy of God, alienated in his mind by wicked works (Col 1:21). Yet the false gospel says, “You may not believe in God, but God believes in you and you need to believe in yourself.” (The Bible says that Jesus did not believe in His hearers, John 2:24).

Problem 4 — Employing a Worldly Approach

The fourth problem with the ‘purpose driven church’ is its creation of a worldly ethos within the four walls of ‘the sanctuary’ in order to make the church more appealing to the world. Apparently since unchurched Harry has to dress smartly at the office all week, he insists on the casual look at weekends. To make him feel comfortable the saints must remove their respectful Sunday best and go for the casual or even the scruffy look. Then there’s the ‘music problem’. Unchurched Harry hates organs and choirs. A cappella singing makes him cringe. So, the music must be contemporary and loud. According to Warren, Saddleback exploded with growth after loud rock music made its entrance. People want to feel the music not just hear it.

Herding all the flock together three times a week for nothing more than hymn singing and Bible teaching doesn’t work anymore. Ministries, programmes and small groups must be introduced to meet people’s needs for counselling about poor self esteem, depression, infertility, singleness, weight loss, co-dependency, addictions and more.

According to Warren, providing the primary issues are in focus (Christ and His gospel) the secondary issues (the church model/methods) can be as varied as you like. What works (pragmatism) is all that matters. “I contend that when a church continues to use methods that no longer work, it is being unfaithful to Christ.”16 So just as Jesus ‘targeted’ the lost sheep of the house of Israel, Paul targeted the Gentiles and Peter targeted the Jews,17 at Saddleback Warren uses multiple venues to ‘target’ different markets. A jazz service for jazz lovers. A rock-n-roll service for rockers. Based on a mistranslation of Acts 5:42, Warren claims he’s following the apostles who provided different kinds of services in separate ‘courts’ of the temple.

Warren even claims that God enjoys rock music.18 “I reject the idea that music styles can be judged as either ‘good’ or ‘bad’...no particular style of music is ‘sacred’...There is no such thing as ‘Christian music’, only Christian lyrics.”19 Yet just as clearly as a march tune fits a military scene, jazz fits a night club scene and rock fits a festival scene, so there is a certain kind of sound that suits a prayer meeting - and it’s not the rock, rap and jazz sound that the purpose driven church has borrowed from the world. Music that has a corrupt origin, employs sensual rhythms and is accompanied by a fleshly breathy style of singing, with singers who scoop and slide from one note to another, is utterly unsuitable for the spiritual praise of God (Eph 5:19).20

Conclusion

At the root of the entire purpose driven church paradigm is a fatal misconception. As John MacArthur points out: “The notion that church meetings should be used to tantalize or attract non-Christians is a relatively recent development. Nothing like it is found in scripture; in fact, the apostle Paul spoke of unbelievers entering the assembly as an exceptional event (1 Cor 14:23).”21 In fact, the church at Jerusalem was so holy and God-fearing that nobody dared to join it (Acts 5:11). The New Testament preaching of Paul “kept back nothing” (Acts 20:20) and involved reproving, rebuking and exhorting with patience and doctrine, bearing in mind a future time when people would no longer “endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers and they will turn their ears away from the truth” (2 Tim 4:2-4). That day has surely come.

The first few decades of the church growth movement have clearly shown the naiveté of those who thought that the true gospel could survive the introduction of a marketing philosophy which says the customer is king. Does style affect substance? It actually does much more. The purpose driven style has completely subverted the true gospel message. Exposition has surrendered to entertainment, preaching to performances, doctrine to drama and theology to theatrics – and the fallout has been catastrophic.

Doctrine has been trivialised and expositional preaching abandoned, leading to the introduction of multitudes of false converts and shallow members. A former Willow Creek counsellor admitted “Willow Creek is a mile wide and one-half inch deep.”22 Those who grieve to see their churches adopt this model have been marginalized. Separation from sin, worldliness, false doctrine and false churches has been deeply compromised. Speaking of his church members an unconcerned Warren states, “Are there unrepentant pagans mixed into Saddleback’s crowd of 10,000? Without a doubt...That’s okay. Jesus said...Don’t worry about the tares…”23 When George Barna surveyed Willow Creek’s weekend participants he found that while 91% stated that their highest value was having a deep personal relationship with God, of this same group 25% of singles, 38% of single parents and 41% of divorced individuals “admitted to having illicit sexual relationships in the last 6 months.”24

The answer to this movement is to abandon it altogether and return to biblical truth, biblical living, biblical preaching and biblical church principles. The idea that these new ‘purpose driven’ methods will restore the power of God in our midst is a red herring. Warren might just as well say that if only instead of being a preacher of righteousness (2 Pet 2:5) Noah had done some simple market research and built a ‘purpose driven ark’, more than eight people would have come aboard. When holy living, Spirit empowered preaching, loving unity and faithfulness to truth doesn’t seem to bring ‘results’, turning to the new methods advocated by Warren will only spell disaster. There will be results – but all of the wrong kind. A generation ago A.W. Tozer wisely said, “One of the most popular current errors, and the one out of which springs most of the noisy, blustering religious activity in evangelical circles, is the notion that as times change the church must change with them.” Since faithfulness to God’s word, as opposed to what evangelicalism calls success, will be the standard of reward at the judgment seat of Christ (1 Cor 2:4-5), obedience to the command to preach and teach, without trimming our sail to the wind of the world, is the most pressing need of the hour.